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  1. I just took my son to the dentist for the first time today and they told me he has a lip tie. His pediatrician never told me he had one and he had trouble latching for the first three months. He is 21 months old now and still nursing, but it can be painful at times. I’m wondering if this is why. I’m torn if I want to have it fixed or not because he would not act well at all and is bigger and strong for his age. Thank you for the article!

    1. Please fix it. It is literally a couple minutes long for the procedure, and the healing process is a breeze. No special requirements. My special needs daughter is 22 months old. I lost my chance to breast feed her due to her unnoticed lip tie my oldest had a severe tongue tie, I opted out of fixing it, at age 7 we fixed it because it effected his speech, he doesn’t even remember it. He’s 15 and will forever have speech issues. I chose to not chance it with my daughter.

  2. My daughter Emma is 17 months. I have no idea why she wouldn’t nurse so I just pumped for 12 months. She is having speech issues as well. then We had our daughter Isabelle. (Now 4 months) and I’m thinking why is it she nursing why doesn’t she want a nurse so I checked her mouth. Wow she has a lip tie. So I checked Emma. She has one to!! Both have a 4!!! They both go in the am to get it revised!! I’m praying this helps

  3. I just discovered my son has a lip tie today and it explains a lot! He’s almost 2 and I had trouble getting him to latch. I was also told that the lactation consultant wasn’t available. I feel robbed now of my breastfeeding experience. He only successfully latched once.

  4. My great nephew had this but it took awhile to convince anyone so he struggled to nurse, gain weight etc till fixed at several week of age. Now our two day old grandson diagnosed today; will be corrected. Greatful for his mom with “second baby instincts” and observant medical staff!

  5. My son has this I could not breastfeed with him and now it makes sense why I just wish I knew this existed back then… appointment now booked at the doctors!

  6. I nursed my first two kids for 2+ years but they both have lip ties. My concern now is their teeth and currently my 2yo has poor speech. My newborn who is 12 days old also has a lip tie but is nursing well like the other two but I’m considering getting all 3 kids done (5yo, 2yo and newborn) but I’m nervous!

  7. My 2 year old has swollen gums and I took her to the doctor. He prescribed lidocaine to num the area so she doesnt feel pain. While I was applying the lidocaine I noticed that she has a severe lip tie that goes in between her two front teeth and attaches to the palad. I am freaking out since that is the most swollen part of her mouth and now I found out that she need to have that cut. Any recommendations?

  8. Just shared this article with my cousin and it really made sense for her about what she and her baby have been through. Thanks for writing this! She’s calling her dentist tomorrow.

  9. Hi!!! We’re considering having our daughter’s done (she’s 2 yrs now). I just discovered it, we didn’t have any problems with breastfeeding thankfully.

    Can you tell me where you got your procedure done for her? A lot of ppl say the laser therapy isn’t common and we want to get some second opinions if our pediatric dentist doesn’t agree.

    I am chiefly concerned with her speech and her smile as she gets older. Kids are cruel and I don’t want her to have to suffer.

    Feel free to email me the info! I’d really appreciate it!

    1. Hello. I have the same thing My daughter is 2 and never had any problem nursing. My son had trouble and we got his tounge and lip done. This made me look at my daughter and realized that she has a lip tie and when she smiles you cant see her top teeth. Did you get the frenulectomy? How did it go and would you recommend us doing it ?

  10. I am kicking myself now because I had the same issue with my now 5 year old and she has a gap so wide in her front teeth,that another tooth can fit in there:(
    I did have the surgery performed on her when she was 6mos.old but I didn’t see the same results:(

  11. My son is 11 years old. We had an amzing pediatrician who caught onto his tongue tie at 2 weeks old. She recommended we offer his binky often, as sucking would help to stretch out his frenulum (in his case). I had already given up breastfeeding by then, due to the excruciating pain it caused. He did have speech therapy for a while at age 2.5, but honestly that was due to a reaction to a shot (he is allergic to pertussis vaccine).
    He is now a happy, wonderful boy, with no dental issues and only an occasional word-slurring, which doesn’t stop him at all 🙂
    My first grandbaby was born 3 months ago. My daughter was unable to get her nurse at all, despite myself and nurses trying to help. She settled on pumping for a while, but baby wouldn’t latch onto the bottles right, either. (Daughter was very ill and I stepped in to care for the baby). I suspected a tongue tie then, but 2 more trips to the ped for checkups resulted in the doc saying she is overfed and has reflux. Sigh. Yes, while baby was taking 4 oz formula every 3 hours, she was spitting up perhaps half of it. I switched bottles. Then switched bottles again. She cant use wide nipple bottle bc her upper lip curls under no matter what I do. We tried avent, but those arw still too wide. Funny enough, it was the cheapy 3-pack for $2.97 at Walmart that started working for us. And now, we will be looking for a new pediatrician, because even after I told this one about tongue tie running in the family, she didn’t even check.

      1. You can have no trouble with breastfeeding and think revising isn’t necessary. However, a tie could still cause unnecessary dental (cavities, gap, etc.) & speech issues down the road. Revising a tie isn’t invasive. It’s quick and very low pain. Your child will get a numbing shot and will not feel anything, and pain is minimal after the procedure. It’s very much worth taking care of before any harm is really done. You may think it’s not necessary because breastfeeding is going well, but consider the long term.

  12. I so appreciate your post, I am raising and re-lactating for my grandson. He is now 7 months old. I saw a lactation specialist who was wise enough to check since my supply was low. He is scheduled for the procedure and I hope and pray that he can latch right for his sake and mine. We are adopting him and I want us to have as great a breastfeeding relationship possible!

  13. *I have to vent*
    WOW! I am reading this on my son’s first birthday. We had a very rough start to breastfeeding. I saw “FOUR” different lactation consultants and 1 ENT specialist to consult for a tongue tie but no one ever bothered to check for a lip tie. No one even mentioned it as a remote possibility. I didnt even know it is a thing until I read this while I was researching for a reason for the gap in my son’s front teeth. On my 10+ appointments with LCs in the first 8 weeks of my son’s life all they would say is – oh his latch is perfect. Look at him gulping, and they would weight him after 20 minutes of feeding and realize he has transferred only 10 ml. Not a single one of them found this. At one appointment when I bottle-fed my baby after him transferring only 10 ml at the breast, one LC used her fingers to flange his top lip out as it was pushed against the nipple but didn’t realize what was going on – WOW – talk about incompetence. I feel so angry and frustrated now. I basically spent the first 3 months of his life attached to the pump to keep my supply and doing the mind-numbing routine of breast-feeding, pumping and bottle-feeding. My son is a trooper – he never rejected the breast though the only thing the poor soul was getting was gas and terrible reflux. We basically just grew out of it around the 12 week mark when he started transferring enough milk for me to not need to pump 24/7. He eventually learned to breastfeed somehow though he was never as efficient as he could have been without a lip tie. Since I am a first time mom I have no way of knowing for sure how an efficient feeder feels like. I do know that most times I can get a better feeling of emptiness with pumping than with breastfeeding. Looking back I am amazed that we made it to the one year mark. I do not know how long I will continue to breast feed but I cherish all the moments we have spent snuggled together and the memories of the first few weeks had been so much better if I was not constantly stressed by the demands of pumping and bottle-feeding on top of breast-feeding.

    Ok – now for a question – do you think it would be worth it to get it revised at this point? Can I tell what are the chances of speech delays or tooth problems for my son’s specific case?

  14. My daughter has a lip frenulum but I can not find anyone who thinks it’s bad enough to clip it. Now at 2 1/2 she need fillings and still the dentist tells us to let it be clearly the frenulum is not allowing the upper part of the teeth to get clean. Please help I need suggestions on how to proceed. It was not an issue with feeding cause I could not breast feed and now I feel that the doctors just want to leave it cause it makes them more money. I am so stressed over this

  15. I’m so happy I’ve found this! I have a 3 month old daughter who I wanted SO badly to breastfeed but it was just too painful – and I’m talking fist clenching painful. So painful that I would be holding the back of her head as she would latch on and I’d have to yell for my husband to hold her head for me because I was afraid my hands would clench on her tiny head. Yeah, it was tough. I only lasted 3 1/2 weeks. I wanted to try and keep nursing her but my husband protested – he couldnt stand to watch her not getting enough milk and for me to cry everytime I tried to feed her. It was a mess.

    I checked her lip after reading this when she woke up from her nap, and sure enough – it looks like she has a Class IV lip tie. I’ve found a doctor in my area who we’ll be setting up an appointment with tomorrow.

    Thank you very much for posting this. It’s nice to know that it wasn’t something either my daughter or I were doing wrong, but heartbreaking to know that it wasn’t caught sooner. I’m holding her right now as she sleeps and I’m in tears because I know that if it was caught sooner I would probably still be nursing.

    1. I’m in tears reading this because I can relate to you with the pain. My baby boy is 8 months old and I justrealized tonight that he has a lip tie. I had the same amount of severe pain as you with breastfeeding, where I would end up gripping his head so tight because of the pain. I was terrified that I would damage his little head so I would use my palm to hold onto him and grip my teeth in pain. After two months of excruciating pain at every feeding it finally got better because I pumped for a couple weeks to let myself heal. I’m in tears thinking I could’ve fixed it so much earlier. We could’ve had such a beautiful nursing relationship as a newborn, rather than me being terrified of him. I’m devastated the SEVERAL lactation consultants, nurses and pediatricians never checked for this…
      Thanks for sharing your story. You sound like a beautiful momma to your baby. ?

  16. Thanks for this post. I have 1.5 yr old twins and they just noticed the lip tie in my boy TODAY because I saw his teeth weren’t dropping like most peoples. I’m so upset they just figured this out, because they found his tongue tie at a week old and though it helped him drink his bottle better, after reading this I’m almost in tears because he had reflux issues for so much longer and it could have all been because of the stupid lip tie they didn’t catch. I’m really glad that it’s a simple procedure to have it taken care of and really hope the dentist we go to will do laser instead of knife.. I might find one that does laser (I’m in Canada).. And since it’s hereditary, I’m totally checking his twin sister when they wake up. Thank you!

  17. I could have step by step written this article!! My LO is 6mo and after many many problems and seeing a pic of a lip tie on a mummy’s fb page an checking my girl I’ve just realised he has a very noticeable lip tie!!? This has gone unnoticed by many doctors and lactation consultants!! I’m furious!

  18. my 10 months old daughter had a lip and tongue tie surgery today at the Nairobi hospital. Am so happy the stress and the pain of waiting is over me. thanks a lot Dr. safwat…

  19. Thank you so much for posting this, my daughter had all these symptoms as a baby I gave up on breastfeeding, and she was extremely colicky. Unfortunately her lip tie went un noticed until 2.5 years old. I really wish I would have known about this when she was baby and maybe I would have been more successful at breast feeding. Now that my daughter is almost 3 she has a very hard time speaking. She can say a ton of words but has a very hard time with pronouncing, the only people that can really understand her are my husband and myself. Is this common with lip tie, or is this something completely different?

  20. I wish i had read about this 9 months ago 🙁
    My son is now 10 months old and i had to give up breastfeeding due to the excessive pain and recurring mastitis. It was making me a miserable mother and i had to start bottle feeding to improve my own health to be able to be a happy mum to my baby.
    The fact that i have now found this would show that its still on my mind 9 months on as i was never able to find an answer as to what the problem was!
    This really needs to get out to more people. Cant believe its almost uneard of.

  21. my son who has just turned one was born with a lip and tongue tie, i was the one who noticed both, he had his tongue tie cut at one month but by then i hadnt noticed the lip tie, a couple of days later i noticed it and everytime i mentioned it to anyone they say “we don’t do anything for lip ties” his is severe, when he smiles and laughs the inside of his lip seems to bulge out, and he has problems feeding and cant even keep his dummy in, he has never gained much weight and wakes at night a lot still, i have seen the health visitor, doctor and paediatrician but still no joy 🙁 just wondering where to turn next, may consult the dentist as you said.

  22. You’re welcome ladies!

    Vanessa, our insurance didn’t cover it, so it was $300 out of pocket. I understand now that Dr Jesse’s prices have gone up to $500 per treatment. I would probably ask around and see if someone you trust knows of a good person that can carry out the procedure for less.

    Hi Farah, I’m sorry to hear no-one helped with the lip tie issue.

    The decision to correct lip tie is always up to the parents. Some choose not to do anything, and baby is fine. Some choose to get it corrected (like I did) and the baby still has issues. The earlier it is caught and corrected, the better. Because my son’s was caught so late at 6 months, I could not get him to latch better. As a result, his top two teeth have quite bad cavities on them. I am really, really upset that the medical staff I spoke to did nothing to help, despite me telling them something was wrong. I put in a complaint to the hospital.

    At 2 months, I can’t tell you if the breastfeeding relationship will be different. Did you get the tongue-tie released, and did that make a change to your nursing relationship? I hope it was successful 🙂

  23. Hello. Thank you so much for posting this. I have a two months baby boy now and i think i have the same problem with yours. When he was still two days i noticed his upper gum was attached to a lip. I asked the nurses but they told me there’s nothing to worry about that but instead they told me my son has a tongue tie and he is already scheduled for an operation. He was okay now but sometimes, his upper gum would still bothers me. I know there’s something wrong. When you see his gums it looks like a teeth because it has a gap. His two months old now, should i go and fix this? Hope to hear something from you. Thank you and godbless!

  24. Hello just curious what symptoms if any would be apparent and obvious at 3.5 boy . My son never ate a lot in one sitting and just curious if this was one of the symptoms. Thank you

  25. My 3 month daughter has lip tie. I hear the clicking when she nurses and we knew she was swallowing a lot of air. I wonder if my supply is suffering also. We thought she had colic but I researched her lip tie and I’m bummed I didn’t find out sooner. I looked at my 3 year old and he has it also. By the time he was 6 month he was gaining weight slowly. I really wish I had known then. Did your insurance cover the procedure?

  26. Valuable information. Lucky me I discovered your web site unintentionally, and I’m stunned why this coincidence did not came about earlier!

    I bookmarked it.

  27. I cannot thank you enough for this post!!! Because of you, I discovered my sons lip tie. My story was exactly like yours. We are going to get it fixed in a week and I am praying that we are able to develop a healthier breastfeeding relationship! It had been so hard for 3 1/2 months! I am spreading the word, as not many people have heard of an upper lip tie

  28. Huge thanks for posting this! My baby has the same I found out when he was 6 mths. He is 10 mths and I can see it gives him problems esp when you want to brush the upper teeth. Definately sorting this out !! Thanks

  29. My daughter had a baby on April 2, she was also experiencing a lot of pain with nursing. Had seen several doctors and many nurses. It was her first child and several nurses were helping her to get the baby to latch, someone should have noticed. She went to a lactation counslor the other day and her son had both a lip tie and a tongue tie. She said the difference in pain was almost immediate, and got better as her nipples healed.
    I did not know this ran in families, but my sister had a tongue tie when she was born.

  30. My breastfeeding experience has been very similar. My daughter is now 17 months and breastfeeds a huge amount still, her PTT was cut at 12 weeks, I did know about the ULT at the time and could have had it cut privately but was told that it wouldn’t make any difference to feeding. My LO put on weight fine and it has never affected her development, it’s just me as I have had pain, discomfort and vasospasm for most of the time as her upper gum pinched my nipple and now her top incisors are fully grown it is even more painful as the graze or dig into the base of my nipple, especially at night. i have constantly thought it was something I was doing wrong and that was hugely stressful. If I have another baby with a ULT I will definitely have it cut, it’s too late to have it done now for this LO.

  31. I NEVER even knew such a thing existed!! My daughter is 6 and I had a terrible time nursing her. Guess what??? Lip tie. Smh

  32. My DD is going on 1yo on the 1st May and We’re still breastfeeding.
    Since her top teeth have come through she has a gap in her 2 front teeth. I asked my friend about it who has just recently had her sons tongue and lip tip done and she said that my DD has a class III lip tie.

    I had a bit of trouble at the start with latching but it got better. The only problem with her feeding was that she would gag, gulp air and wheeze when feeding.
    Since her teeth cut through I’ve had more trouble with feeding her because her lip doesn’t flange so her teeth sink into my nipple and leave indents and of course She doesn’t know she’s doing.
    I went to my dr and asked/told him about the lip tie ad he said yes she has one and that it will eventually stretch, I said ok thanks.
    My friend said that’s not true and that they don’t stretch.

    I don’t want to nor do I plan to stop breastfeeding anytime soon but her teeth are giving me trouble and its getting hard to nurse as my nipples are hurting.

    For the past 4mths she has started waking during the night at least 6-8x for a feed.

    I’ve looked for info about what’s true and what’s not but can’t find anything.

    Thanks for the read, very informative !

  33. Thank you so much for posting this!!! My son is one year old now but he never latched correctly when breastfeeding the entire time!!! I had to use a nipple shield every single time. And over time that severely decreases your supply so I couldn’t breastfeed after 3 months because I dried up. I cried thinking I was a failure at getting him to nurse when now I know it was because the poor little guy couldn’t open all the way!! His lip tie is probably the Class II but definitely noticeable. I really appreciate this post!!!

  34. Had an appointment today for my 2 month old and found out she is in fact tongue tied, we’ll find out about possibly lip tied at the next appointment. Thank you!!

  35. My nephew has lip tie. I was the first to notice it about a month ago after looking in his month to check for teething. He is a little over 7 months right now. She had problems with bf and quit almost right away. Her milk never came in fully. Anyway she had him at the dr Monday for a check up and the pediatrician said everything looked fine. I could not convince her otherwise this morning when she dropped him off. Any ideas?

  36. Wow, I’m blown away by some of these comments! Please keep sharing your stories ladies, you never know which mom might read it and realize they’re in the same position!

  37. I noticed my daughter had tongue tie right after she was born only because my nephew had it and got it corrected when he was about a year old. It was painful the first days in the hospital. I asked the lactation consultant during the class in the hospital just to confirm and she said i was right and to talk to the peds. I talked to the peds and they gave us the info for ENT. We had it corrected by her second week of life. I only noticed get lip tie recently. She had that small gap, I’m just surprised the ENT didn’t say daughter its two now and at her first dentist appointment I’ll ask if it should be corrected.

  38. Thank you so much for bringing awareness to this!! I was in the process of drying up my milk all the while feeling guilty and horrible for giving up breast feeding when my son was 6 weeks old. We have been dealing with tons of gas and colic one with only being able to nurse on one side because of the pain. I emailed pictures to a surgeon I found on another website along with seeing a lactation consultant and they both confirmed he has a lip tie! I can’t wait to get this fixed and resume our breast feeding!! Thank you so much!!!

  39. I must have had that. My mom took me to the dentist at age 7 or 8 and they cut that same spot. I just remember not being happy about them doing it. Sounds like it was a good decision she made but I don’t know that she knew that it could cause all those problems. She was just trying to prevent a gap between my two front teeth. I did have speech problems when I was younger.

    I’m glad I read this article. Now I know if/when I have children to keep an eye out for this.

  40. OMG… thank you for posting this! I was in a similar predicament with my son, saying something was not right. I thought I just had a low milk supply… As he was checked for the usual palate deformities, latching, and tongue tie! I just checked him after his nap and sure enough he has it. He also has been a little late to speak and while babbles doesnt make sounds that use his lips as much (like mama). Maybe coincidence… Maybe not. I am currently pregnant with my second and have been stressing out over trying to breastfeed again.

  41. Now I don’t know what to think!! I was told the upper lip frenulum was no big deal!! Now granted who knows if my kids have it super bad. Maybe not as thick? All I know is both kids have gaps in the two front upper teeth and the frenulum on one of them for sure goes all the way to the teeth.

    I had some pain for two weeks with this one, with nursing, but then it was gone, and there were no milk supply issues.

    Both kids talk fine, eat fine…the kid I referenced to had to suck harder it seemed but that got better. She still nurses at 18 months and everything she does like a pro!!

    So until this article we were just gonna get it cut when the kids are older, before their permanent teeth.

    I guess it depends on the case.

    The doctors say it’s very common, and it’s genetic and can be from a grandma or grandpa, not just the mom or dad.

    If I’m missing something, say anyone thinks I should take care of it all sooner, please let me know : )

  42. My first son was born with a tongue tie. They did notice it at the hospital and referred us to an ENT close to the hospital, however, Erasmus moved an hour away and wanted one closer to home. The lactation consultant told me to as for a referral from the pediatrician when at our newborn appointment. We followed this advice, and the pediatrician told us not to rush, that it was common and most children grow out of it. She actually refused to give us a referral. After 3 weeks of painful breastfeeding, we made an appointment with the ENT that was an hour away. He was wonderful. He explained that my son had a pretty severe tongue tie and while some children can outgrow it, my son would not have. The procedure was very quick and seemed mostly painless. My son could breastfeed a lot better once it was done, but my milk supply suffered and we could only breastfeed for 3 months total with formula supplementation.
    Looking back on it, I was an emotional first time mom and I should have listened to my gut and had my son seen right away, but as a parent you trust that your pediatrician has your child’s best interest at heart and knows what the hell they are talking about.
    Thankfully my son is a thriving 3 yr old with no other issues.

  43. My son has both ties. Minor tongue tie and major lip tie. Our pediatrician told us about the lip tie around 2 months old, but I found out about lip ties on facebook and checked his lip when he was 11 months old. I was never able to nurse him because of other issues, but I still want it taken care of for dental & speech reasons. Because of other things going on in his mouth his doctpr didn’t want to remove the ties yet. We see a specialist dentist & orthodontist in a few weeks so I will find out more then! Thanks for posting! I am amazed at how common this is & how many people know nothing about it (myself included until recently!)

  44. Thank you so much for this info. I didn’t know that what my daughter had might have been the issue with my breastfeeding. I was only able to make it 3 months with her due to poor milk supply. I now have a 3 week old son and have had the most painful experience feeding him. I’m going to check his lip when he wakes up… but I think he may have the same condition as his sister.

  45. Thank you for all your comments! I have been brought to tears by them, because I know what it is like to be failed by the people you trust- healthcare professionals. I hope more doctors, nurses and lactation consultants learn the importance of looking for lip tie and trusting a mother’s instincts!

  46. I saw several postings on a “mom to be” group on Facebook that I’m part of, and a woman kept mentioning tongue and lip ties. I googled and came to your page. Thank you for the info! I wasn’t as lucky as you however. At 18 I got braces to correct a gap in my front teeth. After only a couple of months they had me go in for surgery from what is sounding to me like a lip tie that was never corrected. My surgery was done with local anesthetic but required knives and drills. They had to drill to my gums to remove where it connected in to my palate. I was bruised and sore for several days after. Now that I know that this is genetic, I will be sure to check my baby when she is born. Id definitely recommend people have it corrected earlier for their children if the procedure is as simple as it was for you guys since at 18 years old it was quite painful. Thank you again for your info!!

  47. My son is two years old and i just found out he has to have both lip tie surgery and tongue tie surgery, his dentist was the one who brought it to my attention, He saw the dentist when he was 1 year old and they said nothing to me

  48. I had recently read something on FB from a page that I like about lip and tongue tie. some of the symptoms were the same problems my daughter and I were having. I looked, and it was hard since she was fighting me, but sure enough she has lip tie. I finally got to check today and she has tongue tie too. Going to get this taken care of as soon as possible. she is 15 months and still nursing and would love for our breastfeeding relationship to improve, as well as her gaining more weight- she is only 16 lbs 7 oz. I just can’t believe that is isn’t something that is required to be checked over at birth.

  49. You used to live in the UK. My husband and I are American and living in Bath until Summer 2014. Our little guy is 7 months. I noticed he has a lip tie. Does the GP do this sort of thing here, do you think they would recommend me to someone else. Who would I ask for?

    I will call tomorrow, just curious your experience with the British system.

  50. My Daughter is lip tied. She is 3 now. And it doesn’t affect her speech but it does make brushing her teeth a little tricky. The dentist told me they don’t do anything till she is 5 because they have hopes the teeth will close the gap and fix the problem.. But I guess I’ll wait and see. I’m so glad to see this is common and if she needs to have it cut it’s not a painful process. Thanks for your article 🙂

  51. After 3 months doctors telling me that my son has colic and their was nothing wrong, some babies just are colicky. Even though I am a first time mom; I knew it wasn’t normal for a baby to have so much gas and pain. I had already seen a lactation counselor when he was 4 weeks because I felt overwhelmed with him feeding pretty much 24/7 and I felt my supply couldn’t keep up with his demand. She said everything was fine. After slow weight gain and concern to my pediatrician, my son was referred to a GI specialist. Oh it’s colic was the first answer, back within a week and it was “Oh, protein allergy put him on formula”. My mom instinct wanted to make sure before taking LO off the breast. I finally called the Breastfeeding Center about an hour away from me and made an appointment. We saw the Lactation Consultant today and she said my son has a Upper Lip Tie and a Partial Tongue Tie. She believes his gas colic is due to the large amount of air he is sucking in. Making an appointment ASAP to have them released and hoping all his issues resolve. I wanted to post this in hopes of saving others from possible colic issues. I am very thankful we have found this early enough and that I didn’t give up on breastfeeding. I hope my experience my help others. Thank you for the post about your experiences.

  52. My daughter is a week old and in my opinion isn’t quite nursing as she should be at this point. She isn’t tongue tied (my son was and we had it released) but after reading, I’m pretty sure she is lip tied. I then checked my 20 month old son and I’m pretty sure he is as well. Then the thought occurred to me that my husband had braces as a child (I did not). I came down and asked him why he had braces and sure enough – he says it was because of the gap between his teeth!! I’m not sure what my next move is, but I told my husband I would like them both to see the ENT at some point this year, clearly sooner than later if my daughters nursing habits do not improve. Thank you so much for all the info!!

  53. My 13 month old fell and ripped his Class IV lip tie last night. I had been nursing him with no issues. He has a huge gap between his top teeth, but I don’t mind because it is an adorable family trait. Now there is nothing between his teeth but air, and the bit that was attached is dangling. I talked to the pediatrician, who said to apply ice to help with the swelling, but didn’t seem worried at all.

    Can I expect breastfeeding to be different now? Is he going to need to learn to latch differently? I am guessing that even though it extended very far down it must have been pretty flexible if he was able to nurse normally

  54. My daughter has the cutest smile ever but I’ve beginning to wonder why her top teeth do not show when she smiles. (She is 1 1/2 yrs old) I recently got her to try to show all her teeth and I noticed the part that attaches seems to go down too far so I started researching it and found your story. A little background: I breastfed for two weeks and she latched just fine, it was not painful at all, but I gave her a bottle too soon so she wouldn’t breast feed anymore.. I exclusively pumped until she turned one so I would have never noticed! Any ways, I will be giving our dentist a call too see if they correct this kind of issue. Thank you!

  55. We also saw Dr. Jesse for our newborn’s revisions. We discovered our 14 year old also had one despite not having breastfeeding issues as an infant — and his was pulling his bottom two teeth inward. Dr. Jesse suggested revision for him and we followed through. I documented both of their visits on my blog:

  56. This one is connected to the back side of her gum, she has no space to lift top lip with ease, speech issues, and it seems to be painful to eat! My daughter will be 16 months old on the 13th. I noticed about 2 months ago that she is not talking the way she should be on the few words she does say. I checked inside her mouth and saw her top 2 teeth are 1/3 to 1/2 inch apart separated by thick flesh. It is connected directly to the back side of her gums and leaves no room between her lip and gum. Has anyone had this happen? Is there something other than oral/maxillary surgery to help correct this for proper speech/dental development? Thanks in advace
    *kimmy* I tried to post pictures. It won’t allow attachments. ..

  57. My 7 month old son was just diagnosed with this by a lactation consultant. This explains months of hell. He would not nurse, had extremely low weight gain, colic, gas, reflux…..everything you described. All the pediatrician said was “supplement”. I went to a new pediatrician at 2 months. She put my son in the hospital and called a social worker on me to investigate. We were discharged and I was ordered not to breast feed. I continued to pump and bottle feed. At 4 months I told the pediatrician about his horrible reflux. Was told it was normal. At 6 months he still refused to nurse but I religiously pumped every three hours and offered the breast once a day. Finally at 7 months I reached out to a lactation consultant. The pediatrician refused to sign orders so I had to pay out of pocket but it was worth it. He was seen by an ENT and his frenotomy is scheduled to correct his severe lip tie and tongue tie. Don’t understand why pediatricians are not more knowledgable. They should have recognized the signs and not acted like I was trying to starve my baby.

  58. My daughter is 2 years old and also have problems as above. I did see a doctor and get specific instructions. This article offers a lot more for my new knowledge. Thank you.

  59. Thank you SO MUCH for this post. I didn’t realize that this was the reason my two-year-old daughter was leaving a bite imprint on me for so long. I’m going to take her in and make sure it gets taken care of!

  60. Thank you so much. I’m in tears… my son is 5 months old and we are still breastfeeding it was so hard in the beginning to have him latch he was in the NICU for 3 weeks. I wasn’t able to see.a.good lactation consultant until he was discharged. By that time I was happily nursing with a shield (happily to the eye I wanted to do it like a “normal” mom so badly) finally I stopped using the shield and my left boob dried up because of baby boy denying it and favoring the right. I still nurse with one breast…. I noticed his gums looked odd just a few weeks ago called the doc and they said just wait until his 6 month check up! But this is it… this is exactly it..

  61. My daughter just turned a year old and is getting her 2nd top tooth and I just now noticed it. When she was born she had a gap in her gum and I asked about it but they said it was unique and it started closing up so I didn’t think anything of it. She eats fine smiles fine and is forming words. If she gets more teeth and and they close together the connector will be in between her teeth.

  62. thank you so much for sharing this. Both my little ones have tongue ties, which I knew about, but I have just discovered they have lip ties too. Thankfully despite done issues I have bfed them both, my daughter to 13 months and my soon currently at 10 months. I’m so moved that I have a tear on my eye after reading your words. So much makes sense now. I’m off to do some research into laser reversal in the uk. Thanks again, Chris & family

  63. I live in the UK. My husband had not tongue and lip tie. My first daughter had tongue tie, which after 6 months of many struggles, including a breast abscess, we got the tongue tie removed. My second daughter has quite a severe upper lip tie, which also caused many problems feeding. I was convinced these problems were due to the tie but pretty much no one believed me. I forced myself on many a professional but anyway they won’t so anything about it here. My third daughter, now 6 weeks has a pretty severe tie. She can hardly latch on at all and is taking so much air in that it’s painful to watch. She feeds every hour and a half. I have pretty much given up hope of getting any help bit if anybody knows of any, please please please let me know.

  64. I just discovered my 2.9 y/o has a significant upper lip tie. And sure enough, I do as well! I had a big space between my teeth as a kid. It also made it hard to fit mouth guards for sports, and I occasionally nick it and irritate it when I’m brushing my teeth.

    My daughter is still nursing, but we don’t have latch issues, really, though she does occasionally latch a bit too shallow and cause a little pain. I’m probably going have hers corrected so she doesn’t have to deal with similar issues as she gets older. My biggest concern is orthodontic, but if she’s into certain sports the mouth guard thing is an issue, too.

  65. Wow! My 3.5yo has one like your toddler did – and she had cavities behind her top front teeth. My 18mo has the worst kind and a big gap between her front teeth. Thanks for posting! I’ll follow up on this now.

  66. A different perspective….I just found out that both my girls have stage 4 lip tie but I saw my dentist yesterday and he said not to worry. He said if I get it corrected now it will create scar tissue between the 2 front teeth and they will have trouble coming together even with braces (or will have trouble staying together after braces). He said to wait until my girls get braces and get it done at that time. That way the scar tissue will form around the teeth after they are already in place and will essentially end up holding them together rather than pushing them apart. I know it’s just one person’s opinion but I do trust his opinion. My siblings and I went to school with his kids and have been seeing him since we were little. His wife and son both had lip tie and his son just became a dentist this year and has perfect teeth so he is speaking from experience. As far as decay, he said you either have weak teeth or strong teeth genetically. Just make sure to take care of your teeth, stay away from sugary drinks and snacks, and see your dentist regularly. And yes, it does make a difference with latching while breastfeeding in some cases, but it’s up to the individual to determine if it’s worth it or not.

    1. It can make a huge difference with breastfeeding or bottle feeding, tooth decay, spacing of teeth, as well as speech, and even eating when they are older to have ties revised. I have been researching this in depth lately and never heard of one person or doctor talk about scar tissue being a problem. In many cases, the gap between the front teeth disappears shortly once the tie is released. No need to wait until they are grown when children can benefit greatly at a young age.

  67. I’m in tears… I had an awful time BFing my daughter and finally gave up after a few months because she didn’t latch very well, it was painful, and my supply was so low. Someone posted about it the other day and I took a second look at the cute little gap in my daughter’s teeth (she’ll be 2 in a month) and sure enough, she has lip tie. It goes all the way through her two front teeth so I guess a Class 3 or 4. I wish someone had told me! Or looked! I still feel terrible for ‘failing’ at breast feeding. I’ll definitely be spreading the word. Unfortunately, my daughter also had ITP when she was a baby and from all the blood draws they did, she freaks out when being held down, so I don’t think we can fix it until she’s older and understands what’s going on. Thank you so much for posting this. I just wish I had found it 2 years ago!

    1. Me too! No one detected this! And I went to a lactation consultant. My daughter was so upset every time I would put her to my breast, never ever latched. I gave up after a month of this and because of the stress of going back to work at 3 weeks post partum. I just found out my daughter has a lip tie and she is now fifteen months. I wish I would have known but in my heart I know I was doing th best I could.

  68. I just learned about lip ties and tongue ties last night. I cried. No, I wept. My son is 2 years now, and we are expecting #2, and I have been looking forward to attempting breastfeeding again with great anxiety. Breastfeeding was excruciatingly painful for me from day one through 7 1/2 months, when I finally gave up with a very, very heavy heart. I had no supply. My son had horrible reflux. And after 2 months of supplementing with formula (due to FTT at 5 1/2 months), it was clear he no longer wanted to nurse, as he would latch for about 2 seconds then look expectedly for his bottle. I used Breastflow bottles, and remember distinctly how strange I thought it was that his upper lip depressed the nipple so severely. Then last night I learned about lip ties, it’s effect on breastfeeding, and that it’s hereditary. I had one removed as a child, only I’ve never known that it was a lip tie. I checked my son, and sure enough, his upper lip is tied. So I wept. I wept for relief that maybe my failure to breastfeed wasn’t really my failure at all, but due to this circumstance outside anyone’s control. I wept with anger and frustration that neither the LC I consulted on several occasions, nor my currently breastfeeding doctor ever thought to do the simplest thing, look inside my son’s mouth to check for ties. And I wept because I now have hope and renewed confidence for breastfeeding our new baby. You better believe I’ll be discussing lip tie with my midwife at my next appointment, and I will be checking the inside of this baby’s mouth before I attempt latching the first time.

    1. Yes, its a moments of frustration. Ours had both a tongue and upper lip tie- so the tongue tie, was not dealt with until at nearly 3 mos, our nurse practioner pointed it out and got us on the consult list. But b/c i was nursing around the clock and then raising two other young ones, who knows how i functioned.. anyway, i later found the upper tongue tie as his teeth were starting to show signs of cavities. Sure enough, he had them extracted at age 2, and then the upper tie corrected at age 2. Yes, i always knew there was an issue but again, not even the child dentist who i seen since he was under 1, and we watched those teeth get worse, knew nothing of the correlation. Its horrible when you have a feeling or know, but then no one else knows. Thanks to other moms who can help out.

  69. Thank you for posting this! I have just realized, mostly because of this article, that my 16 wk old has lip-tie! Oddly enough, our pediatrician checked for the tongue-tie but didn’t do so for the lip..(?) She has every single symptom/struggle in the list above. Thankfully I have only had slight discomfort from nursing, but I’m more concerned with her! She still only sleeps for 2 hours at a time and will feed as soon as she wakes from her 2 hour sleep periods. I feel so badly that she’s not getting more sleep! Her reflux is resolving itself a bit, but who knows if she also suffers from a little of the “silent” reflux type…

    We are looking into getting this fixed ASAP. Unfortunately no one in our area does the laser surgery; from what I’ve read there are only 12 or so docs that use the laser in the US! We will fly if necessary. I am not putting my child under anesthesia at so young of an age.

    There’s a support group on FB under “tongue tie” that I’m joining so I can find out more. I’ve also been googling like crazy!!! Hopefully this will help her nurse better, get better/longer sleep. I wish I would’ve had this figured out a LOT sooner. I even went to 2 LC appt.’s and it wasn’t diagnosed. She used to nurse for 45 minutes because she would fall asleep (probably from being exhausted from the effort. She wasn’t jaundiced).

    It makes me sad to think of how many mothers have to stop nursing because their babies have this problem and it isn’t diagnosed????? 🙁

  70. omg, my 15 month old daughter is lip tied, looks like the most dramatic one, I can’t believe it, I tried so hard to breastfeed, thank you, thank you, thank you, now what do I do? any advice?

  71. In April 2012 I gave birth to my first child, a baby girl, Aria. For three long nights Aria wouldn’t nurse, the lactation department said I was doing everything properly and that she would eat if she was hungry. On day four I was sick of waiting and trying so I gave her a bottle of formula which she took immediately. We never found out why, we just assumed she didn’t like something about the whole situation and let her eat freely from what she wanted. At nearly 16 months I got a call from my sister in law, who was watching her. She told me that Aria had fallen and bit her tongue and when she went to look at it she seen something that moms in an attachment parenting group she is a part of posted. She told me that Aria had something called a lip tie, like a tongue tie on your lip and explained it and how it is probably what effected our breastfeeding. I had never heard of it, so while researching I found you page (first one!) it explains it so well and leaves nearly no question unanswered. Thanks so much for taking time to post about this!

  72. My 2.5 yr old has a severe speech delay, a gap in his front teeth, and decay that has chipper his front tooth. I started researching and found info on lip ties and he has a stage 4 lip tie. I have him I speech therapy now and they agree and I noticed my 9 month old also has a stage 4 lip tie. We were referred to an ENT who is doing the lip tie surgery on them both tomorrow.

    1. My son is almost 3 and he has speech terapist too. I found out today that he has lip tie, you think is a reason for speech delay?

  73. I never had any problems nursing my daughter (now 3.5 years old). Her teeth are happy although she has a gap which runs in my husband’s family. Just today my friend told me that she noticed a lip tie in her son who is a year old. She has had trouble nursing, etc. Out of curiosity, I looked it up and found that my daughter has what appears to be a stage 4 lip tie! Is it possible/common to have a lip tie but have no other issues. Her teeth are very healthy now – it is possible to be diligent in cleaning and diet to prevent tooth decay?

  74. My 11 week old baby had her lip tie released last week in Brisbane. I knew on day 3 that my feeding relationship was different this time when I compared to my 2 sons – she didn’t flange her lip, it was excruciating to feed her and I felt her tongue was short as she never poked it out beyond her gums. It took 3 doctors and 3 lactation consultants before this was finally confirmed as a type 3 upper lip tie. I’d had thrush, mastitis, blocked ducts and toe curling nipple and breast pain but everyone was assuring me it was me and my latching techniques…but I just knew it wasn’t that as I’d successfully fed my sons to 18months each. I knew how to latch my baby – something wasn’t rightin her mouth. He poos were onfrequent and strange looking, she vomited all he time and in the early weeks was writhing about it pain whenever she lay down flat. After assessment from a fantastic LC it turns out bub has the lip tie, an asymmetric jaw, a small jaw, bubble pallet and tension in her tongue (we aren’t sure wether to releas the tongue as there is a lot of tissue in the way and it would mean putting her under a general – most docs aren’t keen to do this till baby is at least 6 months old). I’ve been emotionally and physically shattered by this experience and it has affected my relationship with my baby and my husband. I am determined to push on with hope that things improve and she re-learns how to suck properly etc. we are having cranial work by an osteopath and I am also hopefully this will help. Has anyone else gone on to have a pain free and enjoyable feeding experience after a similar start?

  75. This is what happened to me I didn’t realize my daughter had the lip tie until she was 3 months and the pain was gone. I’ve been struggling with my milk supply but didn’t realize it was due to her tie bc I still feel the letdown. But I discovered it bc of a Facebook group.

  76. How funny reading this article today. I just had my 2 week old son’s upper lip tie released by Dr. Jesse yesterday! He and his staff are wonderful! I am still having a lot of pain with nursing though, so unfortunately, it hasn’t seemed to help us much. He can open his mouth wider though. I think my baby needs some training on how to suck properly, he doesn’t move his tongue correctly and is causing me pain and not transferring much milk. Any advice on where to go from here? I am pumping right now to save my sore, sore nipples! Anyway, Dr. Jesse is great – I hope more Dr.’s and dentists will become aware of lip (and tongue) ties in the near future.

  77. Thank you ladies for your kind words and support! Lorena, I hope you find the help of a great lactation consultant 🙂

  78. Thanks a lot for posting this up! We parents need to either become our own doctors nowadays and research a lot or be lucky with postings like yours.
    You seriously were blessed by finding the baby wearing group post but what about all us other parents who were told our milk supply isn’t enough just bec they couldn’t figure out the real problem of the issue???

    Again thanks a lot for clearing this and opening our eyes…

  79. Omg, thanks for posting this. I new since my daughter was born that something wasn’t right. She had the gap in her gums and now , she is 6 minths, it is all together. Just last week I took her for her follow up and asked her pediatrician about it, she said exactly what you were told. I will look for help. Thanks again for posting, and I’m glad everything went well with your kids.

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